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on the president's foreign policy. what's stock him? that's what's in the spin for "the cycle" as it rolls on this monday, october 1. [ "human" by the human league playing ] humans. we mean well, but we're imperfect creatures living in a beautifully imperfect world. it's amazing we've made it this far. maybe it's because when one of us messes up, someone else comes along to help out. that's the thing about humans. when things are at their worst, we're at our best. see how at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance -- responsibility. what's your policy? >>> mitt romney is reportedly planning a major foreign policy speech after the first debate. doesn't look like he'll be aggressively attacking president obama's handling of the libya attack and apparently romney advisors aren't happy about that. there's a split within the campaign team, some aides argue the libya story is a political gift to paint the white house as incompetent. others argue it's a mistake to run on foreign policy when they could be talking about what matters most to average americans, the economy. let's run this through
analysis of the u.s. consulate in libya the romney ticket plans a pivot to hammer on foreign policy, something paul ryan is already focusing on. >> we're seeing the ugly fruits of the obama foreign policy unravel around the world on our tv screens. syria you got 20,000 dead people. iran is closer toward a nuclear weapon. the middle east peace process is in shambles and we have our flags being burned all around the world. russia is thwarting us at every stage in the process. this is a weak foreign policy with it terrible results which makes us less safe. >> we will look at team romney's new go policy and gather the latest intel when former assistant secretary of state p.j. crowley joins us live, next. [ female announcer ] born from the naturally sweet monk fruit, something this delicious could only come from nature. now from the maker of splenda sweeteners, discover nectresse. the only 100% natural, no-calorie sweetener made from the goodness of fruit. the rich, sweet taste of sugar. nothing artificial. ♪ it's all that sweet ever needs to be. new nectresse. sweetness naturally. i'v
the worst economy since the great depression and now we're seeing our foreign policy collapse around the world, they tend to be independent voters anyway and they tend to focus on the debate. the debates are significant, and i would agree with that? is it pretty clear that if governor romney is writing op-eds 48 hours before that's supposed to be about economy and domestic policy that he's trying to send a signal to jim laird that he wants libya brought up? >> i don't think he's going to mind if libya's brought up. it's a collapse of our foreign policy. really what we're seeing -- >> you say a collapse of foreign policy. well, go ahead. finish your tlans and then i want to talk about that for a minute. >> sure. i think it's going to be a domestic policy debate. i'm sure romney's main message is going to be, look, it doesn't have to be this way, okay? we can create jobs, we can deal with the federal deficit, and, yes, we can have a foreign policy where we stabilize these parts of the world if we'll just act in the traditions of bipartisan foreign policy since world war ii. i think tha
important to sort of attack with a knife on the economy and on foreign policy of what's happened the last three weeks which haven't been a good three weeks for the president. i think romney will try to unnerve the president by challenging him directly on this. saying you failed to lead these last three weeks and your vision for the economy is just wrong and try to get under his skin that way. i don't think obama is very flappable. but in terms of these are your policies, they don't work. we tried likable. now we need competent, he's probably going to try to do that. >> we all remember the zingers. i knew jack kennedy. we remember those things. but ultimately voters do they take away a more general feeling from the debates rather than any one line they might remember ten years later? >> absolutely, yes they do. and it comes back to who understands their lives, who's going to do a better job leading the country forward. >> governor markel, great to have you here. matt welch, dana milbank. thanks to all of you. >>> unfortunately there has been another suicide attack. it hit u.s. forces in af
romney goes into this debate and starts asking president obama about foreign policy, i think he will lose an incredible opportunity because this is a debate about domestic policy. shifting the topic doesn't make sense. you're not going to win this election by trying to convince the american voter, the president hasn't done a good job on foreign policy. it's not the record. he's done an incredible job on foreign policy, incredible job in dismantling al qaeda, capturing top operatives, killing bin laden. those are -- that is a tough record for governor romney to kind of attack. >> michael, what do you make of this strategy before going into this debate on domestic policy, romney with an op-ed on foreign policy, already information he's going to give this big speech when so many times you and i have had strategists as a part of this panel and they say he wants to talk about the economy, not by any stretch of the imagination say what's happening in afghanistan or libya should be diminished but the domestic policy issue, getting people to work, that is supposed to be governor romney's a game.
on the economy wednesday night. but foreign policy is something that's critically important given the current state of foreign policy where we have a leader now whose foreign policy has made us weak in the eye of the rest of the world whereas governor romney believe in peace through strength. >> all right. let's talk about the expectations here, karen. the game from both sides has kicked into high gear over the weekend. i want to remind everybody. take a listen. >> president obama's a very, he's a very gifted speaker. he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> we'd expected all along governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any other candidate in history. >> and i think for us to raise the expectations, he's got to do something spectacular. those things don't happen in debates anymore that there's a spectacular event or gaffe. they're too well rehearsed. >> in this week's debate president obama has a great deal to lose. romney's is the most difficult position. obama's is the most dangerous.
soon. >> all right. >>> coming up, mitt romney is about to make a major foreign policy speech. is this the time to take the focus off the economy? we'll look at that issue with our brain trust. yes, they're back, and they're fired up. they're coming back next. [ female announcer ] caroline penry began using olay total effects in 2001. and one wedding, 2 kids, 43 bottles of olay total effects many birthdays later, still looks amazing. thanks to the trusted performance of olay. still looks amazing. and get 3 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. but hurry, sleep train's inventory clearance sale ends columbus day. ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ >>> with the first debate in the books, the two campaigns are preparing for the next big moment. for mitt romney, it is going to be a major foreign policy speech scheduled for monday morning at the virginia military institute. back with us are perry bacon jr., jennifer rubin and tara mcginnis making up our brain trust panel today. do you agree with the romney's decision to shift the focus to foreign policy, particul
opportunity. >> well, and foreign policy clearly is going to be an area where mitt romney will want to make a turn in terms of the narrative of the campaign. one other issue that is now coming into the forefront is the benghazi attack and news over the weekend that the four americans including the u.s. ambassador there who were killed according to politico, romney advisers are now split over how broadly they should hit the president over his handling of that attack. and why it took so long to acknowledge that it was an act of terrorism. while some romney advisers argue they should keep their focus on the economy, politico says plans are in the works for mitt romney to deliver a major foreign policy speech shortly after wednesday's debate. what do you think of that? you think he should do that? >> yes. i think, as i said, right after the killing, that wasn't the time to talk about this. >> right. >> now is the time, several weeks later, to talk about it. john heilemann, the lead in "the new york times," mistake in faith and security seen at libya mission before benghazi raid. response to the
. >> there is a foreign policy debate exploding around him and this is supposed to be a domestic policy debate. the question now as darrell issa and know jason chav fits right letters to hillary clinton demanding answers to what happened in benghazi, questions about whether people there asked for more security, whether there was an intelligence failure, there's talk of plans for retaliation, if the targeting can be found, what is the response to the republican criticism and criticism from some democrats that this was not handled well? >> well, i'll leave some of the details to my white house friends because it's better for them to answer some of these substantive questions but say a couple of things. one, since the moment of that attack we've been focused on two things, embassy security all over the world and getting to the bottom of that attack and bringing to justice the people who perpetrated it. that's what our focus has been on. as new information has come to light, the white house and the administration has shared it. to congress, to the american people. i think this criticism from the r
and to attack the president on his handling of the latest foreign policy crisis, the evolving explanation of what exactly happened in libya when our u.s. ambassador was killed more than two weeks ago on 9/11. we'll hear from a top obama adviser, david plouffe, in a moment. but first, joining me now, the republican governor of new jersey chris christie. welcome back to "meet the press." >> happy to be back, david. good morning. >> the key battleground states, nine of them, we've been polling in nine of them, and all nine it's obama advantage across the board. look at ohio, plus seven. virginia, plus five. these are key states. is the race over? >> absolutely not. and that happened pretty quickly, right, david? you saw the change in those polls happen very quickly. and i'm here to tell you it can happen very quickly back the other way, and i think the beginning of that is wednesday night when governor romney for the first time gets on the same stage with the president of the united states and people can make a direct comparison about them and their visions for the future. and wednesday nigh
. >> and now foreign policy has reared its head. we have first of all mitt romney and "the wall street journal" an op-ed, saying that these developments are not as president obama says, mere bumps in the road. they are major issues that put our security at risk, yet amid this upheaval our country seems to be at the mercy of events rather than shaping them, not moving them in a direction that protects our people or allies. and paul ryan just now on the laura engram radio show, saying this about afghanistan. >> that echos also what john mccain said on "morning joe" today. are they trying to change the skubts to get off -- subject to get off 47% and other missteps and perceived problems in their camp or see a real vulnerability here after benghazi in the way that the white house has handled this? >> if they see a real vulnerability andrea, it's not born out in the public data yet. look at all the data, that goes back months and months the one place where president obama has been strong is on foreign policy and his handling of terrorism. you can argue after benghazi and what's happened in the, you
with stories from overseas where foreign policy is coming out as the central topic in the election with much of the recent focus on the attack on bengahzi, libya. romney advisers are split on how broadly they should hit the president over his handling of the attack and why it took so long to acknowledge it was an act of terrorism. some romney advisers to keep the focus on the economy, some are saying romney should have a major foreign policy speech days after the debate. over the weekend, the white house was on the defensive after the friday's announcement that the deadly assault on the u.s. consulate in bengahzi was deliberate and organized. peter king of new york called on susan rice to resign as u.s. ambassador to the united nations after she initially claimed the attack on the consulate was part of the spontaneous protest after an anti-islamic video. yesterday paul ryan and john mccain slammed the administration's handling of the deadly attack. >> the response was slow, confused, inconsistent. they first said it was a youtube video and a spontaneous mob. we now know it was a planned terr
in the political gospel of the democratic party for 40 years. he's played key roles in u.s. foreign policy as a member and chairman of the foreign committee. middle east, southwest asia, the united states has been there in the last four decades. joe biden has too. of course, congressman paul ryan who chairs the house budget committee also likes to tout his foreign policy chops. >> i have more foreign policy experience coming into this job than president obama did coming into his. >> can you explain how do you have more foreign policy experience than senator obama did. he was on the foreign relations committee. >> norah, i voted to send men and women to war. i've been to iraq and afghanistan. i've met with our troops to get perspectives. i've been to the funerals, i've talked to the widows, talked to the wives, the moms and the dads. that's something. that matters. >> yeah. the sitting vice president shouldn't have much problem landing a blow on a claim like that. though perhaps rather than boxing, it's more accurate to think of thursday night as tag team wrestling with each candidate makin
on the issues voters care most about like taxes, foreign policy and health care. who comes out on top? we will dig deeper next. first i have to show you their schedules today. i think everybody knows where they will be at 9:00 p.m. eastern and 7:00 p.m. mountain. it is the easiest place to watch "monday night football." not too early and not too late. you are watching "the daily rundown" on msnbc. [ "human" by the human league playing ] humans. we mean well, but we're imperfect creatures living in a beautifully imperfect world. it's amazing we've made it this far. maybe it's because when one of us messes up, someone else comes along to help out. that's the thing about humans. when things are at their worst, we're at our best. see how at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance -- responsibility. what's your policy? who sells those remote control helicopters at the mall. buy 'em or don't. whatever man. either way, he gets to fly helicopters all day. and he eats the liquid gold of velveeta shells & cheese. achieve your dreams. eat like that guy you know. i've got a nice long life ahead.
over mr. romney on the broad issue of foreign policy. and then we get into some real contested ground. the president is favored on the issue of taxes, but on the generic question of who would be better trusted to handle the economy, mr. romney leads by three. on the deficit, mr. romney leads by nine. on all of these issues, that's the one on which he has the strongest trust from voters as compared with president obama. and that confidence in mr. romney on the deficit turns up not just in the nbc/"wall street journal" poll, but in a lot of national polls. even though he hasn't given a lot of details as to how he would handle the deficit as an issue. the bottom line, there's no question as to who you would rather be here, right? you would rather be president obama than mitt romney looking at these numbers. that plus 19 advantage that the president has on looking out for the middle class, that is a death nail for mr. romney's campaign if he cannot turn that around. but i think looking ahead to tonight's debate, there is a real opportunity in the huge disconnect in the electorate, in a wa
on libya and syria. romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> reporter: and if you can't control what actually happens in the debate, you certainly control what happens afterwards. the spin already in the planning. ryan's going to be with romney in virginia. the president is staying in colorado for a rally there. veronica? >> tracie, we appreciate it. thank you. >>> nato forces in afghanistan say three international service members and their translator were killed in a suicide bombing in the eastern part of the country this morning. this as the war in afghanistan reached a grim milestone sunday with a death of the 2,000th u.s. service member. nbc's chief fore
the commonwealth here. mitt romney has picked virginia as the place to lay out his foreign policy agenda. the governor's going to be speaking at the virginia pill tear institute in lexington tomorrow. larry, why is virginia so important this time around? >> well, last time virginia was the closest to president obama's national average. nationally, he got 52.9% of the vote. virginia, he got 52.6%. so virginia is increasingly seen as a fulcrum in the national election. doesn't have to turn out the same way this time, obviously, but virginia is a prize that both sides want, and there's a good reason. it's actually very, very close. much closer than some of the national polls have suggested. >> larry, how has the state changed politically and/or demographically over the past four years? >> well, you've added a percent minority to virginia's population. i would say probably white voters in virginia will constitute no more than 72% of the turnout. the rest will be minority. president obama gets 80% on average of all minorities put together whereas romney needs to cross, in this state certainly
the obama administration has done on foreign policy as it relates to the arab spring. i think if the governor wants to, he can use this format, which is open ended on the economy, talk about the economy, but also about american strength and how that can or will be affected in the future economically. so i wouldn't be surprised at all if what you saw in that op-ed that governor romney wrote for the "wall street journal" doesn't become part of a response to a larnler conversation about not just economics in america, but the economic projection, the values projection and foreign policy pro jex. >> let me ask you about the deb krzyzewskied. it's going to be six segments. the moderator has some ability to let it go and bring the conversation more broadly. breathe more than we've seen in the past. does that favor one person or the other? >> no, i don't think so. i think as you know, who goes first was determined by coin flip and there's a slight advantage of having your opponent go first. in the opening, romney won the coin toss because president obama goes first and that means that
institute, he will give a speech on foreign policy, trying to attack the president's policies overseas as being soft overseas. he will try to project the image of strength and once again sort of cast himself as a man who is ready to lead america. >> okay, thanks once again, peter alexander, contributing. >>> and at the washington post, ladies, good day to both of you. >> good morning. >> so to both of you, we are 30 days out. i want to get a general assessment from each of you as to where we are in this election. eleanor, you go first. >> well, i think mitt romney revived his campaign, he was on the verge of being discounted. and his donors were going to move their money to senate races and house races. and so his campaign is obviously revived. i think he thinks he can win, and his supporters think he can win. i think he is still the underdog when you look at the key states, the president still maintains an edge. we have not really seen how the polls will bounce, after the debate and whether the president has lost ground, say, in ohio. but i think that romney still has a steeper electo
there's a rift within the romney camp about how much to push foreign policy issues. the story says, and i'm quoting, the truth is that romney now finds himself besieged with conflicting advice. i guess that's not the best way to approach a debate, is it? >> no, but, of course, we know there's a rift within romney. you know, as jonathan sort of pointed out, he has conflicting views of himself within himself so it's not surprising his campaign would sort of reflect that. campaigns sort of reflect the character of the man at the top or the woman at the top, and it does sound like there is confusion. there's always confusion when the ship is sinking. people just don't know what to save first, and people don't know what to grab onto. and it's clear that mitt romney in his entire campaign is kind of looking for that magic answer. they've tried to hang onto the economy and foreign policy. they don't -- they're not able to hang onto anything except, of course, for this stereotype that he keeps reinforcing as the rich, out of touch guy. i think going into the debate, like that's his biggest
pickering as you know, a very respected leader in foreign policy, is heading an investigation to figure this out. nothing is more important. you know, the middle east as we know is a very, very dangerous place. and we have to keep our guard up even as we are engaged in that region of the world in bringing many of these new countries into really the democratic sphere. this is the first time they've been able to elect their leaders. i was heartened as many were to watch the demonstrations in libya that followed that terrorist ait tack, with 30,000 in the street, you know, demanding that those militias and those, you know, terrorists and islamic militias are disbanded. that gives us, you know, great hope for, you know, what can happen in a place like libya. >> thanks so much, robert gibbs, see you in denver, be there tomorrow. >> thanks, andre ya. >> up next, the testy senate debate in massachusetts. and still ahead, mitt romney's debate strategy. we'll talk to his top adviser kevin madden. join us in denver at the site of the first presidential debate. among our guests obama depppy campai
? >> foreign policy. if you said a couple years ago i'd sit here saying the democratic candidate's strong suit is foreign policy, that would take me by surprise. >> the first debate is domestic policy. >> you're absolutely right. i would stick with the jobs numbers and talk about how we're not where we want to be relatively to 100 thousand plus being gained per month but it's better than an 800,000 job loss. people need to be reminded of the numbers. >> and romney's weapons? >> romney's weapon is still that executive card. bain and all, he has to say i've gotten it done in business. i know the liabilities attached to the profile, tamron, but that's the bed he chose and he has to have a private sector-like fix for the economy. >> no time limits on answers, moderator's discretion, domestic policy, at least 90 minutes devoted to the economy. we're going to talk about a new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll that looks at this debate. do you buy what chris christie said yesterday, this is a game-changer come thursday? >> he was being very truthful. for the romney campaign where they are right now
with foreign policy. we'll be right back. vest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. >>> welcome back to "hardball." last night was a tough night for the president, of course, but there's another story to be told about mitt romney's performance, which relied on fuzzy math. vague policy prescriptions and statements that strained the truth. i'm being nice here. he denied his tax plan would cost $5 trillion. denied it. independent economists say it's the case. "the new york times" editorial today, they got out overnight, says the following, virtually every time mr. romney spoke, he misrepresented the platform on which he and paul ryan are actually running. that's quite a statement. and a new york magazine jonathan challenged romney over his economic plan that seems to rely on some magical numbers and thinking, quote, so romney is a candidate of a 20%
in the policy details with the first of several speeches starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar for every dollar car insurance companies say they'll save you by switching, you'd have like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companies might answer "um" or, "no comment." then there's esurance. born online, raised by technology, and majors in efficiency. so whatever they save, you save. hassle, time, paperwork, hair-tearing-out, and yes, especially dollars. esurance. insurance for the modern world. click or call. >>> welcome back to "hardball." last night was a tough night for the president, of course, but there's another story to be told about mitt romney's performance, which relied on fuzzy math. vague policy prescriptions and statements that strained the truth. i'm being nice here. he denied his tax plan would cost $5 trillion. denied it. independent economists say it's the case. "the new york times" editorial today, they got out overnight, says the following, virtually every time mr. romney spoke, he mis
speeches starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. sleep train's inventory clearance sale ends columbus day. get 3 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. save 10%, 20%, even 35% on a huge selection of simmons and sealy clearance mattresses. even get free delivery! don't miss 3 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. the inventory clearance sale ends monday. superior service, best selection, lowest price, guaranteed. ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ >>> welcome back to "hardball." last night was a tough night for the president, of course, but there's another story to be told about mitt romney's performance, which relied on fuzzy math. vague policy prescriptions and statements that strained the truth. i'm being nice here. he denied his tax plan would cost $5 trillion. denied it. independent economists say it's the case. "the new york times" editorial today, they got out overnight, says the following, virtually every time mr. romney spoke, he misrepresented the platform on which he and paul ryan are actually running. that's quite a state
quickly though, governor romney is going to be giving a big foreign policy speech coming up after the weekend? >> reporter: that's scheduled to take place on monday back here fittingly in virginia. it will be at vmi on monday. it's an opportunity to attack the president again and dominate romney's readiness to lead. this is something they were prepared to talk about at the debate, supposed to be a debate about domestic issues. they thought there was a potential during the final 15 to 20 minutes when the conversation turned to the role of governing for mitt romney to perhaps be able to attack the president's mishandling in their view of foreign policy issues. since that didn't take place they hope to make that point this coming monday. >> peter alexander traveling with the romney camp in virginia. peter, thank you. >>> two days after the first presidential debates and democrats are still having this bit of a hangover as republicans try to continue seizing on wednesday night's momentum. it was a big night for mitt romney, but will that first face-off really affect how undecided amer
of the administration was to downplay the attack because they don't want any foreign policy -- nobody comes to a protest with rocket launchers so it had -- they are the markings of something more than a spontaneous protest than had gone awry. but i do think the white house is basically placing the burden of the white house on the intelligence agency and saying they were following what they were being told and they didn't really confirm that it was a terrorist attack until some days, even a week later. and i think the president, in his initial remarks at the white house did call it an act of terror, just, yeah, all the protests. >> okay. anne let's listen to a bit more here of the matter on mete the press. >> the president failed the level of the american people and called it a trift attack. because you had to be concerned about another terrorist attack in the middle east after al qaeda had been defeated. >> that's preposterous and really offensive. this presidential record on terrorism takes a back seat to no one. >> ann, is the white house at all concerned this may become an issue on the campaign trail
strategy in a "wall street journal" op-ed this weekend. the campaign says romney will give a major foreign policy speech this week. romney is taking his message to the air waves. >> i think they want to do their best to keep the people of america from understanding exactly what happened. we expect candor, we expect transparency, particularly to terrorism. >> it's hard to understand how mitt romney thinks this strategy is going to work. romney was hammered for his initial response to the attack in the middle east. he blamed the president for sympathizing with protesters. romney is a 14-point disadvantage for terrorist issues. romney can't pick a strategy and stick with it. the campaign, they used to be all about jobs. the romney slogan was obama isn't working. but then all of a sudden, the campaign was about obama care and the slogan was "repeal and replace." then that didn't work so romney moved on to we did build that. while republicans spent a night at their own convention talking about the new strategy, but that didn't work either. so recently they went with "are you better than off tha
a good one from nick who helps us out. tough on foreign policy. even his hairline is receding. >> that's good. >> that's good. >> yeah, no. it's amazing to me when you look at these and you see this, it can be funnier not in presidential debates, senate races, house races, where they show up and try too hard and often you find that's their undoing. >> i was going to say, i think we have adequately demonstrated that maybe the zinger strategy not going to work. >> not good. >> not presidential. >> we'll just say, wow, he was surprisingly sober and presidential. >> at least now we'll all be looking for the zingers during the debate. >> best zingers don't appear as though they are zingers written and canned months ago. there you go again. they seem very smooth. >> reagan in '84 had that line they work eed on when he blanke out in the first debate. they said you're 73 years old, are you really up to the job. he said i do not think age should be an issue in this campaign. i will not exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> but he's bean actor. it seemed to natu
of the fact that the obama foreign policy is unraveling literally before our eyes on our tv screens. >>> this morning, the obama campaign defended its reaction to events in libbia the campaign's senior adviser said the white house was transparent in its response and dealt with new facts as they amerge. >> as the director of national intelligence said on friday, that was the original information that was given to us. what we don't need is a president or an administration that shoots first and asks questions later. at this point this is what we know and we are thoroughly investigating and that's what exactly what you should do. >>> new this hour, nbc news learned a short time ago that mitt romney is running through a full mock debate this afternoon at an event center in boston conducted under the lights. it's something of a dress rehearsal for wednesday in denver. ohio republican senator rob portman playing the role of president obama. mitt romney attended church with his family earlier today. meanwhile, the president will be hold agriculturally this evening in las vegas, nevada, with
obama has done. i think his foreign policy is very -- >> do you think we need to pull out of these nations? >> no. >> then how do you say we need to control the foreign situation in iraq, the country we ended our war with and now afghanistan? >> we need to have principles and the allies need to know we'll be strong and reliable and our enemies need to know we'll keep our word with what we say we will do. and we have not kept our word in iraq or afghanistan by setting benchmarks before we would leave. that's why the afghan people know the taliban will be there when we are gone and they are very, very concerned about it. and it's destabilizing. but let's get back to the economy, it was governor romney who talked about what he would do to create jobs. he's the one who put forward specifics about his plan. one thing that know one has talked about today is that his five-point plan includes increasing trade with central and south america. trade in our hemisphere, which is absolutely essential for us and easier and will build up central and south america so that it has more stabl
code, position on women's health concerns and foreign policy and national security. and he has proven adept at walking the tight rope at great heights by refusing to take a stand on any issue of any substance at any time this entire campaign cycle. the problem with this clown show is that while it's been entertaining, the ticket price is also very high. as the gop verges on going from grand old party to tired old side show americans are denied a functioning two-party system, a robust debate that is at the very heart of our democracy. so, governor romney, kindly set aside the youtube clips, the you didn't build thats, and the conservative dog whistles that guess what all of us can hear, put up a good fight, an honest fight, in the end politics may still be a circus, but the country deserves more than just peanuts. thanks again to kurt, richard, karen and michael. that is all for now. i will see you back here tomorrow for post-debate analysis at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific when joined by savannah guthrie, former governor ed rendell, professorer michael eric dyson and james lipton of
to -- >> congress get the numbers right. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that overstates the president's position. he's a very sophisticated analyst of that region. i'm filibustering here. but, then, if i were president obama i would say, look, the vice president and i agree that when we came to office, we were losing a war. we were losing it badly and losing it in a way that would have been catastrophic for the region and would have made americans less safe. so i increased the troop presence there, stabilized the situation, got to a point where we would be able to withdraw. >> was biden right? >> biden was one of our advisers. he had input on our decision and -- >> in the fight over whether the fight in afghanistan and fighting a counter-insurgency campaign, were you wrong and was your vice president
, will the strategy work in the next two debates that heavy here? will this vague strategy work with foreign policy and the next debate beyond that? >> i think that the obama team is going to be more ready for what romney's able to bring to the debate than they were in this one. they'll be prepared for romney to walk in and tell his credentials. romney will change up his strategy. in general first debates are lopsided. the incumbent tends to recover a little bit in the second debate. whether we'll follow that trend line is anybody's guess. >> thank you, ezra. appreciate it. now to the third person on stage at the debates last night, you. yes, you didn't have a vocal response, but let me tell you, every moment people like you were chiming in. twitter reports today that it was the most tweeted event in u.s. politics generating over 10 million tweets in 90 minutes. perspective, that means just six years, but now some critics say that the twitter explosion is not necessarily a good thing. in fact, politico's patrick gave vin says it's a rush of information by being too overwhelmingly to consume. patric
the numbers some. for example you have economic crises and foreign policy crises. if you play poker, you're used to playing your hand well. you catch a lucky card or you play bad and catch the card of your life. you used to think about improbability. you are calmer when you watch the he ebb and flow of polls an political news. >> you talk about weather forecasting has improved over the years, and the glitch that sort of caused the ibm computer to beat gary in the 1997 chess game. what are the worst at predicting? what do we get wrong more than anything else? >> in general the field of economic prediction is a pretty bad example. for example, in december of 2007, most people in the "wall street journal's" forecasting panel, 45 distinguished economists said we would not go into a recession over the next year. in fact, it turned out we were already in recession by december 2007. it was later revealed through the data. when we're in a recession we don't know it half the time and can't predict the macro economy more than six months in advance. you had all kinds of problems with people expecti
presidential debate, the town hall presidential debate and then the debate on foreign policy. >> i think we throw out the myth that somehow or other only the first debates matter. i think the other debates will have big audiences. i'm through with the expectations game. i think vice president biden will do very well next week. i think the president will bring his best game to these next two debates. this guy is a fourth quarter player. we saw it on health care and in the 2008 primaries. when the going to gets tough, when the pressure is on, he really steps up to it. i think barack obama whether do very well in these next two debates and i think as voters think about this,do very well in these next two debates and i think as voters think about this, we all play it as a game. if you were an average person sitting at home last night, you said, wait a minute, i suspect that guy romney's going to increase my taxes. wait a minute, i'm a senior. it will cost me $600 more for prescription drugs. i think those are the things that are important to voters and that's why i think the president's perform
. >> you can disagree with what he's doing on these things whether foreign policy or domestic but he's not lazy or disengaged. we're overlooking the simple fact obama is not that good a debater. he wasn't that great a debater in the democratic primary. he did fine against john mccain but it wasn't acceptable. last night he clearly lost. one thing i'm hearing from democratic sources is he didn't end up with one of those moments that's going to haunt him. >> no, i don't think so. he doesn't lose any supporters and he certainly recovers from this, but we can't have any more like that. i say that. sam stein, e.j. dionne, great to have you with us tonight. >>> next, we debunk romney's $5 trillion tax lie with david k. johnston. stay with us. >>> mitt romney tried hard last night to make up ground with middle class voters. he put on quite a dog and pony show. tonight we'll remind you who the real mitt romney is with teamster's president james hoffa. stay with us. >>> first of all, i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. let me repeat what i said. i'm
foreign policy. i think you'll see a lot more depth in terms of the conversation on thursday than you did four years ago. >> carrie dan, thank you and good luck out there. >> thanks a lot. >>> the upcoming debate puts the vice presidential nominees in the spotlight. we have heard from our campaign embeds on how the nominees are preparing. so what is at stake in the vice presidential debate? joining me is matt visor, the national political reporter for "the boston globe," and erin mcpike, political reporter for real clear politics. thanks to you both. mike, let's start with you. the "national journal" points out that biden has not set for a national interview in more than five months. he can be prone to having bloopers now and then that are always well talked about. are democrats concerned about what the democrats might say? >> sure. i mean, i think one of the best attributes of joe biden's is his ability to speak off the cuff. it creates some gaffes and missteps, but it's sort of rare to have a politician who's unscripted. so it's great for those of us who are paid to consult him, but the
and the substance of their policy. this has become an ideologically driven election. no longer referendum on foreign wars or economic failings, this is a choice of doctrine and of direction. so perhaps that's why i don't mind sharing a little political science secret with you. although the debates routinely draw large viewing audiences, evidence shows that voters do learn a little bit of information from them, but political scientists also tend to agree that debates don't actually make a difference in the outcome. sorry. it's at least statistically true. most often, you can accurately predict where a race will end up after the debates by knowing where things stood before the debates. but don't tell the candidates. because with the first presidential debate coming up wednesday, governor romney and president obama will be gearing up for a fight. that's a good thing. we still need the debates. it's a so krat i can sem nor of sorts for the country having the candidates stand behind their podiums forced to answer for nair proposals. we get to see how the ideas stand up under questioning before you decide
is foreign policy. in terms of domestic policy, the next debate is basically it and the vice president debate. i feel there's a lot of stuff i want to hear them on. the other issue i'll say then shut up. i'm curious what you have to say. the other thing i wished had come up, there's a ballot initiative in colorado that hasn't gotten a lot of attention here. amendment 64 to legalize marijuana in the state of colorado. 51% in favor, 40% not in favor. it's a big deal. it's probably going to happen in colorado. i genuinely wanted to hear mitt romney and barack obama say where they were on it. >> one of the things that strike me, i hear the dichotomy on we went deep but didn't touch on the social issues. we don't talk about the social issues we write off as soft are economic issues. when talking about people's ability to participate fully until the economy, you are talking women's rights, reproductive rights, drug laws. you are talking issues like prisons that we didn't talk about. gun laws. >> there ends up being a mars/venus distinction. >> right. in fact, what we never get to is the important t
-muslim film clip trying to quell the criticism that he's looked weak on foreign policy. in his last big speech on a global stage before the november election, president obama said this -- >> as president of our country, and commander and chief of our military, i accept people are going to call me awful things every day. and i will always defend their right to do so. we do so because in a diverse society, efforts to restrict speech can quickly become a tool to oppress minoritieminorities. we do so because given the power of faith in our lives and the passion, religious differences can inflame. hateful speech is not repress n repression, it's more speech. the bigotry and plas fi and lift up the values of understanding and mutual respect. >> inside subway terminals here in new york, the mta is running this ad. it reads in any war between the civilized man and savage support support israel, defeat jihad. the ads come from pamela gellar. she is the co-founder of an organization called stop islamization of america with a long history of anti-muslim paranoia. the mta rejected the ads initially. they
, which i believe is focused on foreign policy. i just want the candidates to be asked about this. >> there's also, mika, a front page in the "new york times" that everybody ought to read saying u.s. abandoning hopes for taliban peace deal. just to go back to afghanistan. it says one of the expectations was that we could batter the taliban coming to the table to work out some kind of a deal. well, we all could've handed our government history books that would indicate over history that wasn't going to happen. so the idea that's a surprise that the taliban isn't going to suddenly sit down with us and work out a government and work alongside us should not come as a surprise to people, but apparently it is. now we walk away from that possibility. >> obviously afghanistan has a long history with the british, the soviets, everybody. and there's a famous saying, you can't want democracy for more than they want it for themselves. so we are not going to change the whole culture of afghanistan. it's not why we went there. we went to deal with al qaeda and terrorism and it became a nation-b
very intentional about the next couple days. monday we have that big foreign policy speech by governor romney here in virginia. virginia military institute. and everything he does is ads, his speeches, his debates are going to be in the frame of here's what the last four years have been like. here's what my four years would be like. because in the ads where in ohio today, romney is saying we can't afford four more years. in doing this story, jim vandehei and i found two rising advisers within the romney camp, senator rob portman who was the stand-in for obama, who played the obama role in debate prep has become a much broader adviser, someone that the president -- someone that romney trusts. and he's given them a lot broader advice about messaging and stagecraft. earlier mika was mentioning -- mika and joe were mentioning romney's family. tag romney, the oldest son, as you guys know, very involved in the 2008 campaign. he's been less day-to-day involved in this campaign because of his business, he's been out raising money. he's taking a more assertive role. we're going to see him, both
you plan on closing the deficit. >> how does the bomb in syria change the policies in the foreign east. >> what? >> turkey and syria, just he is ask lated the syrian conflict. >> what side of the fence are you on? >> i don't have a dog in the race yet. i'm just curious on what the policy will be. >> you're not turkish are you? >> no. >> i've been in health care for 37 years as a provider and i am completely 100% for the affordable health care act. thank you president obama. >> i just want to know what we're going to do about the student's act. >> what percentage do you pay in interest? >> well, mine's a government debt. i don't have any private debt. >> i paid 3% in college. >> happy anniversary, mr. president. >> 20th anniversary. >> who is going to cut the spending? who is it? it's romney. >> can i ask a question, please? >> sure. >> go ahead. i want to know what mitt romney's policy is on cancer. she relies on social security and medicare. she's not a lazy person. she worked and it's dependent for them to provide car care. i want to know what his policy is. >> we're curious about is
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